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LEDs before and after

  • 1.  LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 11:02

    LEDs successfully installed. Took a lot longer than expected but that's typical for me.

    I went with the 5000k and am happy with the color. It doesn't seem as bright during the day but at night there is a big difference.

    Still some cleanup needed on grid. Curious to see my next electric bill.



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    John
    Store Owner/ Employee
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  • 2.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 11:08
    They look great John! 5,000k is the best color, imo. It's the closest to real daylight without getting too blueish.

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    Paulie B
    Multiple Mat Owner since 1976
    New York City, NY
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  • 3.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 11:08
    Looks great John! I've never liked that old style strip lighting.

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    Richard H
    Store owner
    B.C. Canada
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  • 4.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 11:17
    Good morning John.

     Nicely done!  Looks great John.  Well done.

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    Juan
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Cocoa FL
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  • 5.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 11:59
    Edited by Michael Walsh 05-07-2018 12:01
    John,

    Not all of us have a grid lower ceiling that you & other show working well with the flat LED fixtures.

    On your not so bright during daylight observation, that we know is because of the natural light always showing up more lumens on a light meter.  Just to add any laundromats with a lot of large windows to the outside ... I think would benefit from a fine control that shuts off a portion of the LEDs close to the windows during the bright daylight.  We do not regret doing that wee bit extra accurate controlling by the windows.

    I would say since LEDs will lose some intensity over the years ... it seems like it could be wise to have them start out brighter with a true energy saving dimmer control for some laundromat operators.  The local outfit that bid on our LED project did not want to listen to my suggestion even though I said I would do that portion myself.  Needless to say they did not get the job ... as I scouted with my light meter around to one of their previous "show-case" jobs & it seemed like too little light IMO.  I felt a wee bit sorry for that specific gas station convenience store.

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 6.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 13:43
    Michael,

    I plan to install an occupancy sensor to control the lights in the center of the mat for periods when the mat is empty.  The lights near the entrances will be on continuously for concern that someone thinks the mat is closed with the lack of lighting.  Not sure if that's going to be effective.  These lights are also dimmable and it may be worth experimenting.

    The other added benefit is that I was able to run this all on one circuit which freed up a spot on the maxed out panel.

    On to the next project......There is always a next project



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    John
    Store Owner/ Employee
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  • 7.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 12:03
    Any operators try the relatively new "corn cob" style of LEDs?

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 8.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-07-2018 17:48
    Wait until your next electric bill.  Should see a nice drop.

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    Chris Mallam
    Norfolk VA
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  • 9.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 05-08-2018 13:46
    Just installed all 5000 LED tubes in both my stores, last week, I couldn't be happier.  Had both 12' Ceilings with "box" fixtures and 8' ceilings in more of a machine shop single strip and am please with both applications.  Was working yesterday and had several customers comment on how clean the store was and asked if we were doing anything different.  I just smiled and thanked them so much for their business.  Can't wait to see the electric bill.

    BB

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    Benjamin Blair
    Store Owner/ Employee
    BB's Laundromat
    Pittsburg CA
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  • 10.  RE: LEDs before and after

    Posted 07-11-2018 12:12
    After a couple of months in use here are some stats.

    Keep in mind that I also have about 70% of the lights in the interior of the store on an occupancy sensor that turns lights off 20 minutes after no activity in the mat.  Turns on immediately when they enter.

    Electric usage down my 13.6% Y/Y

    For comparison for June Y/Y stats

    Sales  -  UP
    Gas    -  +6.7%
    Water -  Down 4.22%  (Not sure why water was down.  Maybe more usages on less efficient machines last year)

    Using current electric rates I saved $141 last month.  That is a 10 mo ROI on the LED project (not including my labor)

    BTW - Electricity rates were up 30% Y/Y.  Last month, with all the taxes and junk it was 30 cents per kWh vs 23 cents in 2017.  That could be off slightly based on meter read dates.

    Wish I could find other ways to reduce overhead.



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    John
    Store Owner/ Employee
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