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Full cycle dry

  • 1.  Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-12-2018 20:24
    Would like to hear from UN-ATTENDED  owners who are doing full cycle dry. Do you have problems implementing it without an attendant?

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    Chris Mirisciotta
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Canon Coin Laundry
    Canonsburg PA
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  • 2.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-12-2018 23:03
    Chris,

    Giving bonus time for using a higher denomination coin has definitely helped.  We are partially attended.  Maybe a few Canadian Operators have also tried this approach with their higher denomination coins ... not sure.

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 3.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-12-2018 23:35
    Michael,

    I wouldn't give bonus time for a $1000 bill, let alone a high denomination coin.

    Chris,

    How would you deal with customers paying for a full cycle then finding out that one item has not fully dried. Do they have to pay for another full cycle?

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    Richard H
    Store owner
    B.C. Canada
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  • 4.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:04
    Edited by Michael Walsh 03-13-2018 12:09
    Richard & others,

    I understand that the higher denomination coin bonus is not the best fit for many.  In our case with the super high extract dedicated around a 1000 g force extractors ... we find a percentage of customers holler to another customer they have extra time they don't need.  The experience is that the customers sometimes just put in 2 dollar coins because of convenience & bonus which is always way more time than they need ... if they also used the extractors.

    When the customers take their clothes out early because they did not bother to get quarters ... it is extra profit for us.  I would not be a bit surprised if Larry Adamski &/or his attendants have also observed this phenomena ... albeit just using the "convenience" factor & passing on the bonus factor.

     I would like to find a third party moisture sensor that I could install to shut the gas relays off while it sensing "no moisture"..  Anybody have any suggestions on how a person could add that feature to a dryer that did not include that in the first place.  On 2nd thought it seems like someone posted that they turned that feature off on their new dryers that had that set by default.

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 5.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-12-2018 23:12
    Edited by Miguel A. Gonzalez 03-14-2018 11:28

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  • 6.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 08:47
    Chris;

    Miguel pointed out some good thoughts. However it would depend on your mat. I have a 2nd much smaller mat in another area that has 15 machines. It is unattended all the time. It has a combination of pay as you go and complete cycle dry. Most of the dryers are cycle. The other 2 are larger and are pay (Q) as you use. They both work very well. This mat shows that you don't need an attendant and both can work side by side. In fact I collect more Q from the pay as you go system than the cycle dry. Perhaps because it is because of the their sizes and loading conveniences.

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    Deward Stout
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Hurricane Laundromat & Storage
    Hurricane UT
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  • 7.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 09:29
    Sorry Miguel, my ADD kicked in after (only if you pay attention). 35 points and still no shuttle launch? Anyway, Deward thanks for your response. My question was to see if any un-attended guys have successfully implemented it. Been kicking the idea around for a while. Just wondering if enough signs and leaflets would get the job done. Been doing this for 19 years but seeing more customers not knowing how to dry properly.   ​

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    Chris Mirisciotta
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Canon Coin Laundry
    Canonsburg PA
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  • 8.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 11:47
    Washlava's Tampa location is mostly unattended (open 24 hours, attended 9 hours a week) - we switched to full cycle drying about a year ago and have had great success. Our old dryers made more money (because they were less efficient), and our new Huebsch dryers were too effective so we were losing money on the dryers even though we raised prices.

    So then we switched to full cycle drying which has been great. We provide customers with 40 minutes at $1.50. We don't get any complaints. (Note, if you provide too much time, you will get complaints because customers will perceive that they are buying too much time, so try to find the sweet spot on the amount of time they need - speaking from experience...)

    Prior to rolling out our app, we had a very simple sign on each side of the dryers with the price and amount of time. Now it's all in the app. We don't have prices listed anywhere in our store and have no issues - people don't read signs anyways, so having everything in the app is more effective.

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    Jamie Sewell
    WASHLAVA
    Tampa FL
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  • 9.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 14:04
    I am unattended and have 8 of 25 dryers on full cycle dry. I would run the entire store on full cycle, were it not for the fact that my .25 dryers are operated from set-o-matic computers, which lack that capability. My customers seem to gravitate to the full cycle dryers more than to the .25 ones. I have been considering a .75 to start on the .25 start dryers, but haven't done so yet.

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    Thomas Bright
    Owner
    Bright's Coin Wash
    Marengo Illinois
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  • 10.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:58
    Edited by Chris Mallam 03-14-2018 11:50
    2 unattended stores. One dollar coin for 25 minutes.  No issues or complaints.

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    Chris Mallam
    Norfolk VA
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  • 11.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 17:45
    Edited by Michael B 03-13-2018 17:45
    ​I went full cycle about two years ago. I put a sign on every top pocket for the first two weeks after that I have had no issues & 90% of my dryer problems went away. The only real issue is I should have done it sooner.

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    Mike B
    Multi Store Owner
    Sunny Palm Harbor Florida
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  • 12.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 18:44
    Chris,

    Full cycle dryer pricing in a QO laundromat.
    For a QO laundromat, changing to full cycle pricing such as $1.75 (7 quarters) for a 36 minute cycle makes good sense whether the laundromat is attended or not.  I'm not saying $1.75 is the exact price that should be charged and I'm not saying that 36 minutes is the exact time that should be given - these choices depend on your unique situation.  I am saying that full cycle dryer pricing makes far more sense than charging something like $.25 (1 quarter) for a 5 minute cycle.

    Time dryer pricing in a DCO laundromat.
    The only thing that's better than full cycle drying based on quarters is time drying based on dollar coins.  This is because a customer can insert 1 dollar coin and get a short 16 minute dry cycle or she can insert 2 dollar coins and get a normal 32 minute dry cycle or she can even insert 3 dollar coins and get a long 48 minute dry cycle.  Even the 16 minute cycle can actually accomplish some drying before the dryer stops.  Over the past 9 years, I have used DCO to provide 18 minute, 17 minute, 16 minute and even 15 minute cycles per dollar and all have been well-received by my customers.

    Don't accommodate cheap-skates.
    Any customer who is so cheap that she actually wants to insert a quarter, wait for the dryer to run 5 minutes, check the load, insert another quarter, wait for the dryer to run 5 minutes, check the load, etc. all in an effort to avoid spending one quarter too many is wasting her money and her time.  Such a customer should not be encouraged or accommodated to continue such behavior.  Full cycle QO pricing or Time DCO pricing eliminates this problem.

    Educate your customers.
    In any laundromat, you have to educate the customer on the change in your dryer pricing.  Since you don't have attendants to provide this education, you can write up a well-worded, perfectly clear explanation of what it costs to start your dryers and what the customer receives for that money.  Once you have your short note perfected, print it up on a computer using a 16 point font so people can read it without putting on glasses.  Next, make a hundred copies.  Laminate as many of these as you need so that you can tape one to each dryer window (on the outside) and one to each folding table top (near the right rear corner).  The remaining copies are spares to be laminated as needed.  Maintain your laminated notes for at least 60 days so that all customers have an ample opportunity to become comfortable with your new price structure.

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    Larry Adamski
    Muskegon Laundromat
    Spring Lake MI
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  • 13.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 20:09
    Thanks Larry and Michael. Larry, i'm at 5min per qt now. I was thinking, 1.75 for 35 minutes. Printing a lot of leaflets was also my train of thought. I would put them out in advance.

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    Chris Mirisciotta
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Canon Coin Laundry
    Canonsburg PA
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  • 14.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 20:26
    Chris,

    You don't want a bunch of handouts laying around. They will end up on the floor making the place look junky. You don't need anything in the washer areas either. All notes should be limited to the dryer areas.

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    Larry Adamski
    Muskegon Laundromat
    Spring Lake MI
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  • 15.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-13-2018 20:46
    Edited by Juan Vazquez 03-13-2018 20:47
    Greetings..

     Education is key.  It is so regardless.of whether you go full cycle.or not & you will be ahead of the game regardless.  That same strategy applies to everything else laundromat related.

     Think about it. How many of us have spoken to or overheard customers talking about which washer works better, which dryer runs hotter etc...

     We try to assist our guests with washer & dry tips if they ask or if they seem receptive.  Some get it & thank us.  Some remain in disbelief.  Case & point?  We all have that customer or set of customers that think that overstuffing the dryer will result in dry clothes for the same amount of $.

     Miguel.... You had my full attention when you mentioned Space Shuttle launch.  I was going to see how accurate your data was going be. Lol...

     Stay well amigo.


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    Juan
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Cocoa FL
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  • 16.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 01:42
    I think $1.50 for 30 minutes is best for you, 35 minutes seems a little bit too long thus holding up your dryers and created a crowed in your store same thing with parking lot.
     Full dry cycle will works and works good no matter what/where you located attended or un-attended or your customers don't speak English.
    3 out of 4 stores of my are 24 hours un-attended , 1 of them is 50% Hispanic with little English,all of my stores's dryers starts with $1.50 for enough time to dry clothes, 95 % of my customers they dry their clothes only one time ,85% of my customers they don't waste their time and money on dryers .
     2 out of 4 stores I set only 25 minutes because all of my large capacity washers are 400 G force plus large single pocket dryers .

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    Linh Nguyen
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Mobile AL
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  • 17.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 07:38
    Chris,

    My laundromats are all attended. I don't post a sign when raising prices. However, when I switched from quarter dry to dollar coin dry, which I consider as "half cycle dry at 18 minutes per coin", I put an announcement on the front plate of the coin changers for about a month before implementation. Once I switched to half cycle dry, I placed a small sticker at each stack of dryers that reads "18 minutes per dollar."

    I think proper communication is necessary. Otherwise, the customers may get frustrated that the dryers take the coins but "don't work as expected." They would attempt every way to retrieve the coins from the machines.

    I'm attended but many customers act on their own before creating a problem and after having a problem. It's better to inform as many of them as possible while they are not frustrated.



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    J H (John)
    Laundromat Owner
    NYC
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  • 18.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 09:58
    Linh and JH, you both bring up good points. I have 6 mats. 3 Dexter and 3 Huebsch. Dry times do vary but i would like to keep some things close in all stores. I am also Qt/CC. What do you think about .75 start for 15min with .25 for 5 min top offs? The .25 5min start is the customer i have a problem with. I figure at least with a 15min start they are going to get dryer hot. If they know what they are doing they will add money as needed. If they don't another .75 should get them dry. I think this would be easier to do without an attendant. What do you think?

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    Chris Mirisciotta
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Canon Coin Laundry
    Canonsburg PA
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  • 19.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 10:40
    Edited by J H 03-14-2018 10:42
    Chris,

    If you would like to make more dryer income and eliminate the customer complaints about expecting clothes getting dried with 3 or less quarters, you should try the full cycle dry.

    If you would like to offer the customers the flexibility of drying light clothes (i.e. sportswear) with three quarters, I agree that you can start with requiring 3 quarters. I suggest to put a small sticker at each dryer to inform the customers about the policy of "3 quarters to start" and that is "to dry light clothes". This way, they understand that they are expected to add at least one more quarter to dry a normal load. Or you can go further by adding "At least xx quarters to dry a normal load."

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    J H (John)
    Laundromat Owner
    NYC
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  • 20.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 12:32
    Chris & others,

    I still say finding a slight cost incentive besides just the gain in fewer cool downs is worth considering from a "happiest customer" standpoint.  I am thinking forcing a higher start up will just irritate a percentage of customers ... when they just need a little tiny bit more drying time to be 100% "bone dry".

    Some of my more frugal customers know just how to sort their lighter clothes & have shown me that their clothes are 100% dry within 12 minutes.  But then like Larry A ... I have single pocket dryers.  Plus my 1000 g-force range extractors do actually benefit lighter clothes such as partially cotton briefs & socks & shirts.  It is not just the down items & Carhardtts etc.  One lady showed me how she turns her jeans inside out for the quick 12 minute dry time.  She also said that she notices her jeans fade a lot less that way.

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 21.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 10:30
    I just implemented full cycle in my unattended store Feb 1st. After
    seeing the discussions on this forum over the last year about it I
    finally took the plunge. Very happy I did. More coin in the box, less
    customer issues. I have not run long enough yet to know what if any
    effect on the gas bill. Some of the issue I was seeing that I hope this
    will resolve is people taking 3 times as many dryers as needed and only
    feeding quarters at a time. I wish all my competitors who were coin
    based would do the same. The card stores seem to be full-cycle but the
    coin stores are not.

    Doug




  • 22.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 12:10
    Does anyone use the full cycle dry system with Wascomat TD30X30 dryers?  Can it be done on these?  I am at $.25 for 5 min but how can I change to start at say $.75 or maybe $1?

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    James Radovic
    Owner
    Jupiter Laundry and Downtown Stuart Laundry
    Jupiter and Stuart, FL
    CLA Member since 2000
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  • 23.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 12:42
    James & others,

    Weren't those dryers actually manufactured by ADC?  .... I could be way off here but it seems like some Wasco dryers were actually relabeled ADCs.  Take the time to study the programming settings very carefully.  Calling tech support can sometimes get you one like what happened to me where "the know it all & then some" was adamant over the phone that I had to " I kid you not" spend over $800 for each of my dryers for their so called cookie cutter update they were selling at the time.  Sometimes i can be a thick & treacherous jungle for us laundromat owners to navigate through to able to pay our help decent wages & be successful ... looking at the whole picture ... including all factors etc!

    Most of the time we are guilty of "under thinking & verifying" not over thinking & verifying IMHO.  FAITH ... yes ... but not blind faith!!!

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    Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
    Store Owner/ Employee
    King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
    Bismarck ND
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  • 24.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 14:09
    Christ,
     For me ,the full dry cycle is drying one time only no need to dry again and no need to wasting their waiting time,so 25-30 minutes range is my working point and also the customers must pay me at least $1.50 to use my 30lb dryer . I don't want a customer put their clothes in any dryer for 15-20 minutes  then they leave and come back and their clothes not dried,I want their clothes to be dried after they come back to pack their clothes.
    Since you are using credit card it's make more sense to go with $1.50 per swipe/cycle on 30lb dryer.
    You won't regret, you won't make a mistake to go with $1.50 per cycle for enough amount of time to dry their clothes.
    When we took over our 2,400 sqft store,the previous owner vend his dryer $.25 per 8 minutes ,after two weeks of ownership I changed to $1.50 for 30 minutes. sure ,customers bi$ching about it but over time they get used to it .

     ​

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    Linh Nguyen
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Mobile AL
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  • 25.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-14-2018 14:31
    Take a look at my photos to see my set up, 100 g small ipso washers are right in front of 30lb ipso dryers $1.50 for 30 minutes. 400 G large Primus washers right in front of 55&75 lbs dryers $2.00&$3.00 for 25 minutes. My point is their clothes will get dried after first use ,don't waste their time ,don't hold up my dryers ,don't spread over the dryers and must pay me for that amount$$ to use each dryer.uRCjNzFoSIG6vJXNdoyO_IMG_2440.JPGrSxJJlYSvOvFfZzbZNeZ_IMG_2435.JPG

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    Linh Nguyen
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Mobile AL
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  • 26.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-15-2018 15:33
    As long as everyone is talking about this topic, let me throw my hat into the ring.  Our washers are mostly SQ Gold (i don't know the extractor speed off the top of my head) with a few SQ silver.  We have 14 stacked 30 lb. SQ dryers, currently at $.25 per 8 minutes and 8 stacked 45 lb. SQ dryers, currently at $.25 per 5 minutes.  I was considering going partial full cycle dry to see how the customers reacted (e.g., just the 45 lb dryers or half of all of them).  I was thinking $1.00 for 30 minutes in the 30 lb. dryers and $1.50 in the 45 lb. dryers, but i could be persuaded to make it a little more to get an increase in revenue - perhaps $1.25 and $1.75.

    Right now, our dryers are in the 33-35% range of revenue of our washers.  I wouldn't mind getting it a little closer to where it was (around 40%) before we upgraded the washers.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, including whether anyone tested it out on part of their dryers in the process of switching over.

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    Ross Weston
    Sudz & Dreamz
    Store Owner
    Glendale CA
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  • 27.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-15-2018 15:58
    We are currently $1.25/30 30 pound
    $1.50/30 50 pound

    i love it and I bet my utilities are lower because people don't constantly open the doors.

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    Ross Dodds
    Wash On Western & WeHo wash
    Los Angeles, CA
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  • 28.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-16-2018 01:45
    Ross Weston and others,
    here are my 4 full cycle dry stores and how I make them works:
    Store 1. First time in laundry business , retool a closed dump store, do a six weeks grand opening with free full cycle dry 25 minutes, the price for 30lb=$1.25 ,45lb=$1.75 and 75lb=$2.75 . Here is my full cycle kick in :every wash customer when they load their clothes in dryer I place five ,seven or 11 quarters in their hand and tell them that the dryer is cost that many quarter to start and they must inserts all of quarters I gave them before they can starts it
    2. Purchase an esixting store ,the dryer price for 30lb is $.25 per 8 minutes . After two weeks and druring remodel and grand opening I switched it to full cycle dry $1.50 for 30 minutes ,same technique with first store place the quarters in customer's hand
    3.build a new store,same technique with first store .
    4. Same as store #1 .
     After grand opening ,customers will get a little used to it and they on own after that  and they will read the decal of pricing next to coin drop.
    So if you do half a just a few of dryers ,I think you may create a confusion for customers .
    I have only two weeks experience of quarter per minutes in 4 stores combined,so I can't compare the different between two pricing structure .I don't know ,I'v saved on gas bill or not , I don't know I make more or less money on dryers, but I do know I don't have problems with my dryers ,my customers rarely (never?) complain about my dryer's performance. My dryer's income is always 50-60% and up to 70% druring rain season of washer's income.
     Since I have only two weeks experience of quarter per minutes ,so I have questions for everyone and especially the original poster:what are the most problems you'll have with quarter per minutes ? How often y'all increase dryer price and how ? decrease minutes?.  If decrease what is the outcome? I'm increased price from $1.25 /25 minutes to $1.50 /25 minutes without a problem ,only a few regular customers mentioned about it.
    Thanks




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    Linh Nguyen
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Mobile AL
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  • 29.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-16-2018 11:44
    When done correctly, full cycle drying is going to POSITIVELY impact your customers. Do not be afraid to charge $1.50 for 30 min or so - if their clothes are dry in 30 minutes, they are going to think "these dryers work really well" and appreciate that your dryers are effective (from what I have heard, this psychology works with older dryers too - set the dryers for 1 hour and people will be happy that their clothes are dry).

    If you set the dry time at 20 minutes but then people have to extend the time, this is going to negatively impact your customers because their clothes are not dry. In their minds, the dryers CLEARLY are not good enough, fast enough, hot enough, etc.

    And on the "educating your customers" topic, I would only post a few signs depending on the size of your store - do not go overboard or people are not going to read them. If you're really concerned about signs being read, you could do 1 poster size and then a few 8.5" x 11" signs, but customers figure things out - I don't think the industry gives customers enough credit sometimes - some commercial laundry equipment is not super intuitive to operate, but they figure it out - pricing is not rocket science (no disrespect) - if you make a change, they will figure it out.

    You should use signs SO sparingly - if you don't, it just creates more noise and detracts from the store. And then you will have to over "educate" your customers because they will block the signs out because it's overwhelming.

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    Jamie Sewell
    WASHLAVA
    Tampa FL
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  • 30.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-16-2018 11:57

    We do Full Vend on the Dryers at $3.00 for 75 lb.  $2.25 for 45 lb. and $1.50 for 30 lb. dryers.

    I've set it for 36 minutes per advice from Brian Henderson at Liberty Laundry on the Forum.  Customer can add quarters to make it longer if needed.

    Initial resistance to change lasted for 2 weeks.  Posted signs around the store explaining the reason for the change.  Took them down after 2 months.

    Now, far less complaints.  Streamlines the store and takes customers less time to do their laundry.  Less laundry sitting around in the dryer waiting for customers to add quarters.  Customer think the dryers work better ;-).

    The only confusion now is when a new customer walks in.  "This is how we do it and the reason why ..." usually gets them over the difference quickly.

    Personally I would not go back to quarter per minute ever.

     

     



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    Michael Nemetz
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Michael N
    San Francisco
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  • 31.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-16-2018 19:17
    Ok, i have made up my mind to do it. Just have to decide the time. I'm at .25 per quarter and i want to stay in that range. So it will be between 1.50-30min or 1.75-35min. Should also mention that 3 of my mats are in my hometown. There was only one competitor but he got closed for building violations 3 months ago. Probably won't get open for two more months or more. Now will be a good time to do this as they don't really have an option and will try it. Going to start working on signs as soon as i decide time.

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    Chris Mirisciotta
    Store Owner/ Employee
    Canon Coin Laundry
    Canonsburg PA
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  • 32.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-16-2018 19:37
     I would do one 5430 if you know for sure the clothes will be dry if you have old her equipment than 175 for 35.
    You were really upset people if you go  Full cycle dry and they're not dry 


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    Ross Dodds
    Wash On Western & WeHo wash
    Los Angeles, CA
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  • 33.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 14:59
    I just set the other 17 dryers from 4 min. Per .25 to 12 min. on a 3 .25 start. The coin meters will accumulate by adding more .25 by 4 min. each insertion.

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    Thomas Bright
    Owner
    Bright's Coin Wash
    Marengo Illinois
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  • 34.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 15:20
    Edited by Paulie B 03-17-2018 15:20
    Thomas, Why not switch to Dollar coins and make them $2.00 for 40 minutes, or better yet, $2.00 for 35 minutes...A full cycle dry for only 2 coins.
    You get a price increase, but the customers will feel like they are spending less money due to inserting only 2 coins.

    Plus, you don't have to collect as often.


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    Paulie B
    Multiple Mat Owner since 1976
    New York City, NY
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  • 35.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 17:44
    Paulie, I would love to, but I converted these to set-o-matic computers from the old turn knob style, several years ago. A 3 coin start is the most they allow. I just added a thermal sticker of .75 to start above the coin slot. I did buy 8 dryers that are factory computer and have those set on full cycle dry.

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    Thomas Bright
    Owner
    Bright's Coin Wash
    Marengo Illinois
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  • 36.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 18:47
    Edited by Paulie B 03-17-2018 18:47
    Thomas,

    Set-O-Matic does make Dollar coin drops. They simply take their quarter drops and convert them to DC's.
    They work pretty well.

    You can call them and maybe order only one to see how it works out.
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    Paulie B
    Multiple Mat Owner since 1976
    New York City, NY
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  • 37.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 18:55
    Thanks Paulie. My DC conversion years ago didn't go very well. I'm kinda done with that for now until our Government forces them into circulation.

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    Thomas Bright
    Owner
    Bright's Coin Wash
    Marengo Illinois
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  • 38.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-17-2018 19:03
    Thomas,

    I think Imonex should replace your defective drops free of charge. Their original model drop should have rejected all quarters once you shut off quarter acceptance to go DCO.

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    Larry Adamski
    Muskegon Laundromat
    Spring Lake MI
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  • 39.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-18-2018 14:37
    That was one problem, Larry, but it was more complicated than that. For some reason around here people have little or no understanding of what DC is, let alone what they are for. That and the fact that I couldn't keep enough DC in my dedicated changer. DC was walking out and not being used in my machines. Then when the Mint cancelled the once terrific small business program, I had had enough.

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    Thomas Bright
    Owner
    Bright's Coin Wash
    Marengo Illinois
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  • 40.  RE: Full cycle dry

    Posted 03-27-2018 00:08