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1.  Final spin

Posted 01-03-2017 13:08

hi everyone

i have some older washers  100g force along with newer 200 and a few 350g force washers.  The final spin  on the 100g washers is for the last 6 minutes. If I increase the time by 2 minutes  making it 8 minutes on the 100g force washers will that help in getting more water out of customers clothes thus reducing time in dryers. 

Please advise.

 Thanks. 

Perry.  

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PERRY BILKOO
Potential Investor
N BRUNSWICK NJ
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2.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-03-2017 13:44

I don't know the answer to your question, but perhaps a way to test it would be to run a cycle the way it is right now, weigh the load once it's done spinning, and then dry it. Next, change the extract time to the new setting and run the same load in the washer again. My theory is that if it weighs less than the first time, then there's less water and the clothes are dryer. Or perhaps you'll find that there's not a significant difference (whatever that may be) and that you're better off keeping cycles shorter. Let us know what you find out!

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Brian Henderson
Operations Manager | Liberty Laundry
Owner | Wash-Dry-Fold POS
Broken Arrow OK



3.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-03-2017 13:45

Beginning at about 4 minutes there is diminishing return on continued spinning. By 6 minutes almost all water that can be spun out at 100g has been removed. Increasing to 8 minutes is not worth the extra time.

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- Winston
Store Owner/ Employee



4.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-04-2017 11:26

G-force not spin time determines how much water will be removed from the load.

Winston is correct, after about 6 minutes the only additional water being removed is due to evaporation.

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Jeff Quail



5.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-04-2017 12:24

Perry,

I agree with Brian in that the only way you will REALLY know, is to run some comparison tests, which are pretty easy to do.

Try what Brian says....Run a load of towels for 4 minutes, weigh them, then see how long it takes to dry them. Then run the same load at 8 minutes, weigh and dry.

And yes, please post your results. I think we would all like to see if there is any difference, and if so, how much.

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Paulie B
Store Owner/ Employee
Mr Machine
New York City NY



6.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-04-2017 13:24

You wouldn't even need to go through the whole rewash and dry routine if you have access to the high spin contactor.

Just wash as usual weighing the load after the normal 4 minute spin, then throw the load back in again holding the spin contactor down for another 4 minutes and re weigh them to see any difference.

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K J
Store Owner/ Employee
Binghamton



7.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-05-2017 12:49

KJ, Brilliant!

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Brian DeCoster
Store Owner/ Employee
Laundromania
Iowa City IA



8.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-06-2017 14:13

I'm sorry KJ I disagree. Through my experience I've tweaked gen. 5 wasco' s every which way till Friday to increase extract. Now with that being said I can tell you it is not accurate to put the load back into the washer and engage the high speed extract contactor for another 2 or 4 minutes. Reason being if you run one minute extract stop run one more minute extract stop and run one more minute extract, you will have extracted the same amount of water as 6 full minutes of straight extract. All in 3 minutes time plus mabey 45 seconds for the machine to stop spinning 3 times. Keep in mind I done this test myself years back. My theory is by watching the water whipping on the door glass every time it went into extract again from a dead stop is we move most water out of clothes within the first few seconds of extract and the more extract cycles OR the higher the G Force the better the removal of water. No with all that being said I do have a tried and true tested theory on how to REALLY Decrease the dry time at .80 G' s  and it will dry faster than 200 G' s set for 5 minute extract, but I will not release this info publically or to most anybody except a manufacture who wants to invest in me. We're talking 6 minutes savings in dry time at .80 B's. Imagine at 200 G' s what it might be.

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John Walchuck
Store Owner/ Employee
East Meadow NY



9.  RE: Final spin

Posted 01-06-2017 14:43

Our many lab tests over the years confirm what two replies have stated here. After four minutes (give or take), you've gotten out what water you will get at a particular G force. Increasing the speed (G force) is typically the way to achieve a lower "residual moisture" level.

The stopping and starting idea might yield some interesting results, but you need to be very careful about how you implement such a technique, since machines go through a specific routine to BALANCE the load before going to extract speed. Improperly starting an extract, with a severely unbalanced load (all the clothes at the bottom of the drum), can damage your equipment.

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Gary Brown
Manufacturer Employee
Laundrylux
Inwood NY