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Topic: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

1.  Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 12 days ago
I understand they spin at well over 300 G force. But are they a serious machine for a Laundromat?

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Curt Harrington

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2.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Not

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Steven Matrix
Store Owner/ Employee

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3.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Best thing is to stay away they just dont hold up
Tech support is  NA  not good just so so   parts are  another issue
think before you buy
Buy  USA  their are plenty of great company's  here in the states with a great product and great service .do your home work
   You be the sales person cause they will tell you it will spit out 10 dollar bills just to make a sale.



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AL WOJCIECHOWSKI
Store Owner/ Employee
lebanon PA
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4.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Here's another thought.
With all the potential horror from North Korea, is it smart to buy any S Korean product at this time?

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Paulie B
Store Owner/ Employee
Mr Machine
New York City NY
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5.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Paulie
I had not thought of that. Good point.

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Curt Harrington

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6.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Guys,

It has long been my preference to buy American.  I guess I got that from my dad way back when I was about 10 years old and I went downtown and spent an entire month's earnings (I was earning $5 per week back then) on a small real-to-real tape recorder.  I thought it was a neat (high tech) purchase until I got it home and my dad noticed that it was "Made in Japan".  Well, that set him off big time.  He took me right back to that store and conned the clerk into returning my cash on the non-defective item by making him think that we were going to buy a much more expensive recorder.  Well, I learned a couple of lessons that day.  First, don't buy anything made in Japan if I intend to bring it home and second, even if all sales are final, saying the right words to the right person can get you a refund.

Anyway, partly as a result of that experience, I try very hard to buy American now.  My TVs were all American made right up until Zenith made the last unit here.  I've never bought a foreign branded car or truck but, of course, some American branded vehicles are actually assembled in neighboring countries so that's a crap shoot.  My John Deere tractor has a transmission that was built in China and a diesel engine that was built in Korea.  The airplanes that I used to own were actually 100% American made (including the engines) and so were the 2 yachts I had.  Anyway, I think there are plenty of good reasons to buy American and thus support OUR manufacturers.  However, try as I might, some of that "overseas" stuff will always find a way into my life too.

My laundromats have never had a foreign made washer, dryer, water heater or bill changer.  All these products have been well supported and have performed well too.  I've never had to worry about a potential conflict interrupting the flow of needed parts or replacement equipment.  All in all, life is good ... even without LG in my laundromat.

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Larry Adamski
Muskegon Laundromat
Spring Lake MI
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7.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Very similiar to the old WE16 and that ended up to be junk

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Ben Gottlieb
Store Owner/ Employee
Laundry City
Jacksonville FL
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8.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
Hi ?
Is LG positively approaching to coin laundromat in USA ?
it works in terms of profitability ? what price level ?

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Kyoung No SEO
Distributor
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9.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 11 days ago
​LG sold commercial laundry in US from 2012, they are very limited to multi housing than Laundromat, the biggest washer is 13KG about 35lbs, their design may be compare to Maytag soft mount, very fragile not solid like other main brand. I saw one small Laundromat locally has some Titan + series, look good, run quiet, but seem very thin build, 5 years BTMF may the most it can delivery.
They used first direct drive inverter motor, which attach direct to the drum. The most interesting, the drum lean 10 degree, not straight out, they claim it will wash better with less water.

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Phu Tran
Store Owner/ Employee
Garland TX
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10.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 10 days ago
Phu Tran
Thanks. I really did want a 35 LB machine so I had to ask. OK, plan "B".
The other day you mentioned a line conditioner for an individual machine. Where can I get that?

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Curt Harrington

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11.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 10 days ago
​Curt sorry for the delay, I get busy with some onsite jobs, if you can post me the schematic of the washer, it will help me to find the correct one for your washer. If not I will find it online.

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Phu Tran
Store Owner/ Employee
Garland TX
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12.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 9 days ago
Phu Tran
Some day I will figure out how to to do that. When I grew up you had to know how to use a slide rule, washers and dryers did not have computers and they were .25 to wash and .10 for 15 min on the dryers. I haven't caught up yet.
None of the machines use over 20 Amps. and are all 208 Volts 3PH if that helps.

And back then if you ran a 240V motor on 208V it would use more Amps. Still do not know how that works. Used to be that when volts went down amps went up. And the other way around. Any way looking forward to that.

Thanks
Curt

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Curt Harrington

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13.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 9 days ago
Curt
You can use this one
EMI Filter 10A AC 110V 220V CW4EL2-10A-T

This is a simple line filter, it will suppress the noise in the line, may be cause your board malfunction

Remember the ground wire very important to connect to the case.

If you control board has 2 wire direct connect from power source, remove that 2 wire connect to the line on the unit, the load side of the unit will go to the power input on the control board. The drawing is generic, let me know if you want more detail

On the motor, I draw little wiring, hope it will understandable. Thank you


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Phu Tran
Store Owner/ Employee
Garland TX
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14.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 9 days ago
Phu,

I tried to google that specific filter.  It did not appear to come up.

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Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
Store Owner/ Employee
King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
Bismarck ND
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15.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 9 days ago
Currently sold out so someone likes these. They must work. Thank you.

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Curt Harrington

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16.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 9 days ago
​Michael, there is many other US brand as Corcom, Delta, Schaffner..... , these EMI filter may be Curt need for his problem solve. I use same brand when we team up with others to build flush wall mount DVR system, it needed to pass FCC certification.
This device will filter out the noise in the line, may work for not well build module, also it will block the noise get out from the unit too.
Remember screw the case to metal frame, also good size of the ground wire, one go to the board, one go to the supply source. Most high value or sensitive equipment have these unit. I have the line noise filter unit for my audio system, cost over thousand buck, weight more than 70lbs.

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Phu Tran
Store Owner/ Employee
Garland TX
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17.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
I have four in my store and the hold up great they are less then $2000 and have 5 year warranty and haven't had to call service man once. I installed a all lg store me and my helper easy installation waiting for the 35lb dryers to come to U.S. I was like you scared to try something new with everyone on the forum purchasing American made. But the fact is these machines hold up and they have pulley system, motor in the front, for easy repair that you can do yourself not hiring people for $85 hour,and great warranty. I ve been open 6 months all my customers love them no complaints, they even want to buy for there own homes. The nice thing is the water usage is great weighs the clothing put just enough to was the clothing and sprays while washing. The average customer in my are uses these there 35lbs that is almost four loads mostly enough for every family if not they will use 2 or three of them more money for you all mats in my area regret purchasing anything bigger not a lot of use for the cost. I love these machines looking to purchase next mat in 60 days second one in year and will remove all speed queen and dexter and replace with low cost lg machines paint fix floor and give community new mat all for less then $40 thousand.

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cornelius burton
Potential Investor
Pilot Mound IA
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18.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
Cornelius,

Six months is hardly a test of durability.  I have some 2011 Huebsch hard mount, front loaders that have never required opening up other than for preventative maintenance service.  You know what they say ... "The dissatisfaction with poor quality persists long after the thrill of a low purchase price is forgotten" (or something like that).

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Larry Adamski
Muskegon Laundromat
Spring Lake MI
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19.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
The apartment house laundry rooms near me installed LG washers.
They spin out fast, but that's about it. My business actually went UP when they put them in because people were complaining that they can't see the water. VERY flimsy soap trays too!

They are obviously home washers converted for commercial use.
In my honest opinion, JUNK compared to an Alliance or Dexter hard mount!!!

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Paulie B
Store Owner/ Employee
Mr Machine
New York City NY
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20.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
Sounds like good replacement machines for small or declining population towns or where big investment in equipment makes no sense.  With a short warranty, they prob expect them to last 5,6,7,8 years max.  Less than 1/3 price of stronger brands, factor in sales taxes and any annual equipment taxes, insurance...very compelling option for a higher ROI.  Faster equipment replacment cycles could mean newer machines with better technology earlier than stronger brands that expect to be in-service longer.


21.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
I bought one 35 and 3 of the 22's to run in my OPL section about a year ago. Zero issues so far. They are not the same as a full-strength machine. They will not do all that the Continental EH040's next to them can. But they do the basics, they are running and wash and have had no trouble.

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Paul Pettefer
Store Owner/ Employee
Laundry World
Lake Charles LA
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22.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 8 days ago
Jim,

If an LG costs less but doesn't last as long then how much of a bargain is it really?  I pay a high price for my top-of-the-line Huebsch washers with all the latest bells and whistles.  I install them properly and charge a high vend price.  I can use them for 15 years and then sell them to another laundromat for 25% of the cost of new washers.  Thus, I'm upgrading my washers every 15 years for 75% of my cost for the replacement washers.  I'll also save another 30% of that net cost in income tax in the year of purchase.  I'll also get a fresh, 10 year warranty and make my customers very happy.

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Larry Adamski
Muskegon Laundromat
Spring Lake MI
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23.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 7 days ago
I live in town with pop 2700 next store in town with 3200 people. I have lg because make economical sense these communities want new shiny machines that's clean and running. I own all the property that my machines are in no lease own and to get 1000 dollar 22lb and 1795 dollar 35lb and two 22lb dryers for 1000 dollars make sense. I had every distributor out to sell me machine these mats only 10 washers 11 dryers with single pocket 30lb left over that was new bought from former owner for 800 dollars speed queen. for this set up the cheapest offer was upwards of 75-85 thousand that's crazy, I'm in business to make money not loss money turn profit quick pay down debt and pay off initial investment within 3-4 years and own property to create generational wealth.
I have been on this forum for a year and see people going out of business and I have mats near me that want to sell because completion and paying to much and purchasing to many machines. I have a guy trying to sell me his mat all the time for 200,00 he purchased a old Hardees and made a mat but now has competition and still paying on real estate and machines he'll be out the game in a year. I want to make sure I make sound investments so my kids will own these mats and property for generations. the next nearest mat to me is 10 miles and I'm drawing customers from them and they live in town, the next two over about 15 miles all Dexter store open three years not attended getting there business. I will probably add 2 more 35lbs by year end and one 22lb because we are growing in first year only six months in. I will buy these three machine only spend $6000 with shipping in heard of, I have talked to owners those cost for the big brands are hard to make on top of lease payments of 1300-1500 a month and utilities of 1200 month my utilities for my mat is 245 water electric and sewer and 77 phone internet and 89 dollars for gas that's awesome and yes all machines run on 110 line no high outage machine except that speed queen dryer I love this business make sure have smart business model, don't keep up with the jones.

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cornelius burton
Potential Investor
Pilot Mound IA
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24.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 7 days ago
Edited by Michael Walsh 7 days ago
Cornelius & others,

You have come up with what might be the best fit for your business's situation & I applaud you for that.  By keeping your costs down it is very possible you will be in a better position to hire employ more quality people for yours (& ours) potentially very long hours business!  Other amenities could be on the list to now become affordable that otherwise would not.

As far as being too lockstep with buying just USA made equipment ... we can just look back at how our manufacturers opened the door wide open for Japanese & other car importers during the early 70s by not paying attention to the actual value.  Value also includes overall costs & a time telling evaluation of how much actual gain is achieved with the significant extra costs.

Enterprising operators who choose to safely & thoroughly update their proven older equipment with new controls & panels should also fall into that category of "overall value seekers".

Just to add ... none of us has a crystal ball for the future ... that of course ... also includes me & my little crew.

Your observations of the many laundromats that don't make it & are left with broken spirits is well taken & should not be "swept under the rug" so to speak.   There are many systemic problems lurking out there for new aspiring laundromat operators!

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Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
Store Owner/ Employee
King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
Bismarck ND
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25.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 7 days ago
Corneilious, if you "think" a LG machine is a machine that is a "generational" machine, you clearly need another year on the forumn. You said you build the buisness for your family, generations. That piece of plastic will be headaches for generations till someone decides to buy a brand that makes commercial laundry equipment, at the price that they are, unless you buy used

I wish you well, and can forsee the near future doing well, until the machine gets used alot (witch you hope it does) and then you will learn the difference between commercial and light commercial equipment, nice and shiny i can think of alot of equipment that is nice and shiny with longer shelf lifes


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Ben Gottlieb
Store Owner/ Employee
Laundry City
Jacksonville FL
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26.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 7 days ago
Edited by Michael Walsh 7 days ago
Each operator has to evaluate whether those LGs could be a better fit.  I think for some operators how well the LGs can be set up with coin acceptance for higher denomination coins & ability to price different # of fills could possibly tip the scale.  All the arguments for potential hard to get parts & too light of duty ...  could tip the scale the other way.  Each operator has different abilities to keep them going.  Is there too proprietary of parts in them ... can parts of them be redone at a machine shop ... all these questions can come into play & require some good hard looks from the prospective buyers ... not just taking the word of slick salesmen.  We also like the ability to cherry pick the best components if a machine can lend itself to that.

How well a manufacturer protects against bad batches through extra good quality control is also a "value" to consider.

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Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com
Store Owner/ Employee
King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash
Bismarck ND
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27.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 5 days ago
Here it is if I call out tech with big American brand I'm in the service call for 85-125 per visit with out cost of parts I can buy new 22lb washer for 1000 dollars if something major happens and through distributor he is wholesaler of machine he keeps parts on hand he buys this brand by shipping container. I order machines on a Thursday had them all in store next Thursday that fast didn't have to wait for the 4-6 weeks done open for business the following week great direct service. I even got few parts thrown in for free to have on hand got 5 year on parts warranty just remove part send in next day new part period. I own thru real estate no lease payments. Legacy for kids debt free store within 3-4 years and if demand grows and population increase then we will convert slowly to American made big commercial. I have never been opposed but the cost to high for the small markets my business model serves. I see just today 3 operators selling business no one sells a cash business unless debt to high or not making enough money to cover expense or don't want to compete with competition on area..
I dominate markets I never want to compete, I always have the cleanest newest machines at lowest cost per machine and own key word own property that has multiple uses apartments and store front to rent out for additional income. remember I'm in spaces that have 10-12 washers and 10 -12 dryers generate little over 1000 dollars a month this is how pay off machines so fast and pay off loans within 3-4 years after that pure profit for life for my family. If I ever moved into market with 25 thousand people no question I open Dexter store because they make brand here in Iowa, but for no lg my brand no issues so far and low cost and I'm betting the will get bigger machines in future and maintain quality and service because they know how the market feels about brand and they want to make it work and steal market share form the big name brands.

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cornelius burton
Potential Investor
Pilot Mound IA
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28.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 4 days ago
Cornelius,

If you're talking about a location that "generates little over 1000 dollars a month", then why even bother?  That location cannot support and does not deserve a laundromat.  If I were planning to install a laundromat in such a low volume location, I'd put in three 20 lb. and two 40 lb. Huebsch washers along with five 35 lb. single pocket Huebsch dryers.  I'd set the washers on E-cycles.  These 10 machines would EASILY handle that volume and would actually have advantages that could pull customers out of their apartment laundry rooms and homes too.  But really, for $1,000 a month, why even bother?

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Larry Adamski
Muskegon Laundromat
Spring Lake MI
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29.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 5 days ago
I have owned 12 of the LG in my coin laundry for 6-7 years.  They look fine and have a high speed spin, but I have replaced about 6 computer boards, and 6 main bearings.  I don't think they have the quality necessary for our business. and I have started replacing them with the Primus.

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Bob Reid
Store Owner/ Employee
Clintonville Coin Laundry
Columbus OH
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30.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 4 days ago
Cornelious, you say pay off machines in 3-4 years, and than income for generations? You obviously need to go see and understand the maintance on a soft mount washer let alone a LG washer 5-7 years old, if you were refering to income for LG for life, as you will be buying parts and replacing machines 2-3 times more than the rest of us buying the mainstream brands, well than yes, you are right income for life for your distributor who STOCK parts for new machines (wonder why) amd for LG who has a customer always having to buy somthing

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Ben Gottlieb
Store Owner/ Employee
Laundry City
Jacksonville FL
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31.  RE: Does anyone have experience with the 35 LB LG washers?

Posted 4 days ago
1000.00 a month?  I wouldn't get off my chair for a mat that did 1000.00 a month. That's barely minimum wage. My Kids would hate me for that. You should rent the space out. I service an apartment laundry  that does 800.00 to 900.00 a month!

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Chris Mirisciotta
Store Owner/ Employee
Canon Coin Laundry
Canonsburg PA
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