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Topic: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

1.  wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-09-2017 20:35

I bought this 2nd laundromat four months ago and the owner didn't leave me any manuals. He is also not good at returning my texts. I'm assuming it 3rd or 4th Gen Wascomat 30 lb washer. There is no display except a control dial. The previous owner took out all the dial since people were getting free wash by tampering with the dial. The washer resume washing when the whole wash cycle is complete. The drain pump is cleared and the water valves are all good. Any suggestion?

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Chanty Pin
Store Owner/ Employee
Hermiston Main St Laundry
Hermiston OR
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2.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-09-2017 21:21

What dial are you talking about and how do customers get free washes from tampering with it??? It sounds like a problem with the timer if the machine is restarting. Swap the timer with another machine and see if the problem follows.

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Richard Heighington
Store owner
Spotless Laundromats
Prince George, B.C. Canada



3.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-10-2017 09:49

Those old wasco's had a piece of glass over the dial indicator. You could break the glass and turn the dial to start machine. I seem to remember the door lock being the issue when machine would restart.

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Chris Mirisciotta
Store Owner/ Employee
Canon Coin Laundry
Canonsburg PA



4.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-11-2017 21:58
That's true. The previous owner ordered a bunch of metal plates and have them placed over the indicators. It solved the tampering problem but you can't read what cycle of the wash you are at.

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Chanty Pin
Store Owner/ Employee
Hermiston Main St Laundry
Hermiston OR
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5.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-10-2017 11:03
Edited by Steve Smoth 01-10-2017 12:00

Does the machine have the greenwald starter coin mechanism with the dials? . The way it works is the dial will make 1 revolution then stop to the point where the micro switches are pushed in. If not pushed in far enough or if the microswitches fail the dial continues to turn and the machines continues to wash.

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Steve Smoth
Non-Industry
new york NY



6.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-10-2017 11:34

The problem is most likely the coin drop or the timer.  I would swap the timer and see it this is the issue.  If not, replace the coin drop.

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James Radovic
Owner
Jupiter Laundry and Downtown Stuart Laundry
Jupiter and Stuart, FL
CLA Member since 2000



7.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-10-2017 12:09

Buy new wascomats!

your machines are 25 years old!

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MICHAEL SAYER
Store Owner/ Employee
DORVAL QC



8.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-10-2017 15:38

Coin drop most likely. After the machine starts unplug the coin acceptor and see if it resolves. Im betting it will.

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RYAN MONROE
Store Owner/ Employee
Easy Coin Laundry Inc
Columbia SC



9.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-11-2017 16:22

I have encountered 2 reasons for a washer restarting at the end of the cycle. First, the coin counting board was damp from recent overflow, or the board had failed.  I replaced several boards before discovering that after a dry out time, the board worked again. Second, the solenoid that unlocks the door may fail. Some washers stop because the door lock solenoid unlocks the door, and cuts power to the timer, thus stopping the cycle at the end.

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- Winston
Store Owner/ Employee



10.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-11-2017 21:55
Thanks everyone! I'll check and swap the parts you guys suggested tomorrow. That is my day off work so I'll be at the laundromat doing repairs. My life revolves around working, helping my wife 2 sets of twin toddlers, and maintaining the laundromats. I appreciate all the helpful advises I can get. 

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Chanty Pin
Store Owner/ Employee
Hermiston Main St Laundry
Hermiston OR
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11.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-11-2017 22:51
Chanty & others,

Apparently we are in a less crime area than Oregon because we have never experienced that kind of activity that we know of.  I agree the original plastic cover over the dial is not durable enough.  Our plan with new embedded logic add on controls for our Gen4s, there will also come a Lexan cover which IMHO will be much less likely to be messed with.  We will have minute countdown on a 20 column 4 row backlit lcd.  We did choose to leave the dial ... it will help us spot a costly water leaking drain or a slow filling washer if the two are not kept in reasonable proportion to each other.

It is really unbelievable how troublefree the Wascomat Gen4 timers are.  Those plastic cams are light years ahead of a previous set of earlier generation Bendix-Philco-Ford-Dexter washers we had.  Those had much more inferior metal form of mechanical timer camming.

 I know not everyone agrees with me but I shudder becoming too dependent on just overly proprietary printed circuit boards.  I think there is room for both the much more long term wise proven mechanical & eventually proven printed circuit board approach.

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Michael Walsh www.kingkoin.com Store Owner/ Employee King Koin Laundry, Car n Dog Wash Bismarck ND
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12.  RE: wASCOMAT WASHER RESTARTS AFTER WASH IS COMPLETED

Posted 01-15-2017 13:13
Hello,
I have been a service tech for 32 years.  The problem is the start mech.  The round cam wheel has a valley and a mountain "Tab" when the  metal tab drops into the valley it is in the start position.  When the machine starts the wheel will rotate and stop when the metal tab hits the top of the "mountain".  The are is adjustable.  You can adjust the vend price by moving the ":mountain" "tab" from one to 7 pushes.  Just loosen the small screws and adjust the switches.  Better yet buy a keltmer coin drop,  They are the best and i have them on all my machines.  NO Jams at all!!
I can say that you will never ever have a timer go bad unless something spills or is dropped on them..  They are tanks.

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THOMAS W MCEWEN
Store Owner/ Employee
WEBSTER NY
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